[TF-AIDN] TF-AIDN F2F Meeting Day I - Meeting Minutes

Eng.Allan allanghazi at gmail.com
Mon Jun 9 10:53:04 CEST 2014


Great work
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                Thank you Noha


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Noha Fathy <nofathy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
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> Please find the meeting minutes of the first day.
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> Thanks,
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> Noha
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> *Day I: 8 June 2014*
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> The day started by an overview on the three-day meeting on the LGR and the
> topics that should be covered. It was highlighted that day one will
> mostly focus on the second phase of the TF work. There is a need to focus
> and define variances in Arabic script and decide on what should/not be
> identified as variant.
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> Dr. Sarmad mentioned that he stepped out charming the TF since he joined
> ICANN IDNs team and this will create conflict of interest. This means the
> TF needs to identify another one to take the lead.
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> David Olive, Vice President, Policy Development swung by and addressed the
> team acknowledging the work done so far by the TF.
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> The first presentation was by Dr. Sarmad on Arabic variance typology
> defining variance, explaining what create a variance and looking into
> possible types of variances.
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> This was followed by AbdulRahman Al-Ghadir presentation on proposed
> solutions for domain names in different Arabic script based languages. This
> included defining problems and possible solutions.
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> Then Ahmed Bakht delivered a presentation highlighting the work that was
> done so far by the TF this included discussion on the LGR code points to
> decide what to be included and excluded.
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> It was explained that the LGR is a conservative subset of the MSR. The
> former is mainly for the TLDs and the gTLDs, while the latter is for the
> domain names in general. Hence embracing new principles is justified as we
> can’t follow the same principles that we have previously used with the MSR.
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> There was a general consensus to further discuss some characters
> particularly the diacritics since they are compulsory in some languages,
> for example in Urdu.
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> This discourse undermined the need to focus on the utility of the core
> points taking into consideration the security and stability issues when
> deciding on inclusion of core points.
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> In this regard, it was proposed to strict the number of combining marks,
> like repeated combining marks in some languages. Since we are talking
> about TLDs and gTLDs and not the domain names, we need to be strict and
> consider carefully including characters in the global context.
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> From ICANN perspective, the priority is to the security, stability and
> resilience of the domains.
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> Therefore, it was agreed to focus first on the characters and then move to
> the combining remarks and variances, so combining marks won’t be included
> unless a quite strong argument is provided. This also meant there is
> general exception for combining marks and diacritics.
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> It was noted that the principle of excluding code points just because they
> are used by minorities and due to the lack of evidence that they are still
> used and written will result in future problems to all scripts used by
> minorities.
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> The last presentation was by Dr. Sarmad on variant principles. All
> principles were discussed and there was a common agreement among attendees
> on these principles. (Please see the presentation in drop box for more
> details on the principles).
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Eng.Allan Ghazi
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