[TF-AIDN] Final call for comments on Arabic LGR Proposal by 5 Nov.

Sarmad Hussain sarmad.hussain at icann.org
Sat Oct 31 15:36:33 CET 2015


Dear Abdulrahman

Thanks for reminding.  Yes, he gave significant input.  Sorry to have missed him.  I will add him in the list.

Regards
Sarmad



On 31-Oct-2015, at 7:17 pm, Abdulrahman I. ALGhadir <aghadir at citc.gov.sa<mailto:aghadir at citc.gov.sa>> wrote:

Dear Sarmad,

I would suggest adding Raed Al-Fayez, as you know both him and Dr. Al-Zoman contributed us with useful information.

Best wishes,
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Subject: Re: [TF-AIDN] Final call for comments on Arabic LGR Proposal by 5 Nov.

Dear All,

Kindly note that I have added an Acknowledgement section after the list of TF-AIDN members in the relevant Appendix.  Please suggest any names which should be added to this list, in case we are missing them.

Regards,
Sarmad


From: Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 4:26 PM
To: 'tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>' <tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>>
Subject: RE: Final call for comments on Arabic LGR Proposal by 5 Nov.

Dear All,

Please attached the sample file containing invalid labels.  Please let us know if you have any feedback or want to suggest any additions.

This includes at least one example of each WLE and some random examples of out of repertoire code points.

I suggest adding this and the other test word list we had developed earlier as appendices to the proposal, so that the testing data is also part of the proposal, instead of submitting extra excel files (latter being less manageable).  This allows anybody who has the proposal document to also have access to the test data.

Regards,
Sarmad


From: Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:17 AM
To: 'tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>' <tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>>
Subject: Final call for comments on Arabic LGR Proposal by 5 Nov.

Dear All,

The IP has accepted the additional evidence provided by Meikal for the two code points are so we are OK to proceed with finalizing the proposal.  I have updated the references in the repertoire table and addressed other edits suggested by the IP and also added the text in response to Patrik’s comment, shared in the email below.  Alireza has updated reference list in the XML file and added it in the repertoire table and at the end of the document.  Therefore, the attached proposal document and XML now completely addresses the public comments received.

The proposal document and the XML file are being shared with the final call for any comment by TF-AIDN members.  Please carefully review the attached files and let us know if you have any feedback or would like any further changes.  Please respond by 5 Nov. 2015.  After that time we will finalize the proposal and formally hand it over to the Integration Panel for final evaluation.

I will update the test data files and share with all of you soon as well.

Thanks all for the great work.  Looking forward to any final suggestions.

Regards,
Sarmad


From: Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 2:04 PM
To: 'tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>' <tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>>
Subject: RE: Important: Agenda for our meeting this Monday

Dear All,

Here is a summary of our call yesterday.


1.       Meikal has reached out to experts and shared additional sources in support of the two code points 0697 and 0751, as per details below.  We will share the additional information with the IP to get their feedback on whether this addresses the concerns regarding additional evidence.

a.       Lorna Evans provided the (T)chadian standard (attached) for 0697; calendar for 2012 is also shared with this letter (supporting recent use) – given in the Mbe calendar image attached (in the first line of text)

b.      Ngom provided reference to additional discussion in the support of current use of 0751 in Wolof (see pg. 357 second paragraph of the attached text “From Dust to Digital”)

c.       0751 also confirmed by Mbaye who shares the reference picture using this code point at http://eap.bl.uk/database/large_image.a4d?digrec=771119;catid=132903;r=6334 (e.g. see the first word: ??? in the first line of the second column in the two column text portion, the ? has three dots above it)

2.       I will develop a list of test labels to check each of the WLE rules (and variants, as needed).  Some of these labels will be nonsense strings as real world examples are not available for cases where one has to switch the keyboards.  Others can also contribute to this list.

3.       In response to Patrik’s comment regarding the IAB statement, we will add the following text at the end of the Repertoire section of the proposal (please feel free to edit and suggest changes):

a.       The current work is limited to the analysis of the repertoire short-listed in the MSR as per the procedure.  TF-AIDN realizes that the current MSR is limited to version 6.3 and will keep following later versions of MSR updated to include later versions of the Unicode standard.  In these cases, if MSR will include additional Arabic script code points, TF-AIDN will analyze them and make additional proposal(s) for adding the relevant subset to the current repertoire being proposed, also considering any security and stability implications

b.      TF-AIDN is also aware of the recent IAB statement. As TF-AIDN has not included any combining marks in its proposal and only the code points which represent the composed forms, for the Root Zone LGR, the task force considers that the issue does not remain relevant in context of this proposal

4.       We will update the proposal to address the editorial changes and share with TF-AIDN to review

5.       The updated proposal will be shared with TF-AIDN and last call will be made for one week for members to review.  Based on the review, the proposal will be finalized and submitted to the Integration Panel for their final evaluation.

Please let us know if you have any queries or would like to suggest any changes on the proposed next steps.

Regards,
Sarmad


From: Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:09 PM
To: 'tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>' <tf-aidn at meswg.org<mailto:tf-aidn at meswg.org>>
Subject: Important: Agenda for our meeting this Monday

Dear All,

Suggested agenda for our meeting on this Monday:  We will review public comments on our LGR process and aim to address them:


1.       Two characters still do not sufficient evidence

a.       0697 ? ARABIC LETTER REH WITH TWO DOTS ABOVE

b.      751 ? ARABIC LETTER BEH WITH DOT BELOW AND THREE DOTS ABOVE

2.       Additional test cases for WLE rules and variant sets

3.       Response to Patrik’s comments on IAB statement

4.       Editorial updates to the proposal document

5.       Any other items


Regards,
Sarmad



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